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Post by Paughco on Aug 11, 2019 21:59:08 GMT
Apologies, I will load up flightplans with waypoints in place of the wayward beacons tonight. As some pilots have submitted testflight times I will not change the test flights to void causing any more chaos than I already have! I have been double checking the first 8 legs for A to D over FS9, FSX, and P3D default installs and all known glitches between the sims seem to be under control. For now....... Cheers, Allan Allan: Hey, man, don't sweat it! You are a volunteer, therefore we have no right to complain! I did find, on the description for test flight B in P3D, the route, which is from the Mont Joli NDB to the Presque Ilse VOR. Those places actually exist in P3D! I think I might actually fly Mikey's CF-DTD, unless somebody else wants to fly it, in which case I'll go back to my usual DC-3 Airways livery.
I'm trying to figure out the main differences between routes A and B. From everything I've seen, it looks like Route B has longer segments, and goes over some obstacles, such as mountain ranges, that Route A goes around. Wonder which one would be best for a '40s - '50s airliner such as a DC-3?
Seeya ATB
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Post by Allan Lowson on Aug 11, 2019 23:32:02 GMT
I have now uploaded a replacement set of files for FSX and a new set of files for P3D. These have associated flightplans for each of the tests, so whether beacons are in individual setups or not, the flights should have appropriate waypoints for measuring the timed runs between.
I have not done the same yet for FS9, but will do by next weekend.
The A and B routes connect the same ends of each leg. We have just broken the routes between down into shorter sectors for the A flights to cater for planes, and pilots, that might not care for the longer full leg flights. DC-3s regularly flew longer legs than any of the A or B flights. Select whichever option suits the time you have available.
Cheers,
Allan
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Post by simondix on Aug 25, 2019 10:55:04 GMT
Are the stopovers to be treated as separate flights. Example EGLF tp LFLL is actually two flights with the stopover at LFLA and two PIREPS should be submitted. Or is it one PIREP with the cumulative time?
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Post by Allan Lowson on Aug 25, 2019 16:03:28 GMT
Simon,
Thanks for the question.
Each leg should be reported as a total of the individual flights that go to make it up.
So, as most of the A flights are multi-sector to keep the individual flight lengths down to 2-3 hours maximum depending on your aircraft, there is a need to keep a tally of the individual sectors.
We need 23 pireps in total for each option. There are only single legs for options B to D of course.
I am about to put the first rosters for the A and B flights on the site.
Cheers,
Allan
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Post by simondix on Aug 25, 2019 18:04:56 GMT
Thanks for the reply so correct me if I am wrong I total up sections on the flights. For each Leg you have made flight plans for that is one PIREP.
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Post by uhug on Aug 26, 2019 6:30:48 GMT
Salü Allan
Now I'm suddenly unsure. I fly with "Plan A" from EGLF to LFLL ".. do I have to land on the stopover airfields? I suppose that I can also fly directly to LFLL .. if I feel like it.
Cheers Urs
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Post by Allan Lowson on Aug 26, 2019 10:12:57 GMT
Hi Urs,
Well, that would be a B flight then! Our very simple target time calculation has an allowance for descending and climbing for each sector, so you could do touch and gos at the stopover fields - or do a bit of sightseeing to use up the extra time.
The B flights are not exactly identical to the A routes. The history of the route development is that the B routes were developed first to follow fairly closely the 1919 route followed by the Vimy.
The C routes were developed to accomodate jets flying at higher altitudes, but still using the start and finish points for the B routes. Then we had to put in a different end point for Leg 21 for the C flights, to provide a longer runway length for the jets.
The A flights were adapted from the B flights with reduced sector lengths to the stopover airfields. This sometimes means the total for the Leg is longer than the equivalent B route with side steps to suitable intermediate stops.
Then we thought of making a shorter option D by selecting the first sector of the A Legs 1-22, together with the final sector of Leg 23, to reduce the distance flown to half the full flight distance.
Thinking outside the box, you could put in a B entry and then take your pick as to which legs you fly along the A route or B route. Your average score on the roster is for legs flown not the total legs available.
Cheers,
Allan
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Post by uhug on Aug 26, 2019 19:30:00 GMT
Salü Allen
Thanks for the information.
Jazzthom and I will complete the testflight Plan-B and will send you the testflight data for a new registration.
Thank you for your help.
Cheers
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Post by Allan Lowson on Aug 26, 2019 19:57:04 GMT
I could always translate the time for the A to the equivalent for the B. There is nothing magic about the individual routes. we just thought a change of scenery might be welcome.
If letters go missing from words I am on my travels and working off a windows tablet for the next few days.
Cheers,
Allan
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Post by bgapilot on Aug 29, 2019 20:51:56 GMT
So if we submitted A times can we do the B flight instead if we feel like it on a leg?
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Post by Allan Lowson on Aug 30, 2019 9:00:15 GMT
If you let me know in advance I can make a B roster entry for you and then you can pick and choose which route to follow for an individual leg. You will also have to make clear in the pirep which option the time is for.
Cheers,
Allan
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Post by bgapilot on Aug 30, 2019 23:09:07 GMT
Okay. Let me think about that one.
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Post by James L. Dean on Aug 31, 2019 16:46:14 GMT
Hello. I am new to this type of rally. I have Microsoft FSX. Can you please tell me how/where do I load the flight plans and all of the other files into FSX?
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Post by skmcconnell on Sept 1, 2019 3:14:33 GMT
Hello James, You Would put all of the FSX files into the same place all of the other flight plans and situation files go, "mydoucmuments\FSX files"
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Post by Allan Lowson on Sept 1, 2019 10:44:30 GMT
Thanks Sean.
If you have any other questions Dean please drop them in here and we will give any help we can.
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