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Post by skmcconnell on Jan 26, 2018 22:07:10 GMT
According to my sources the Super King Air family first flew in '72, and we are relaxed about accepting derivatives that are produced later. So the 350 model is fine by me. Cheers, Allan Thank you, I will quote this over in our forums. Hopefully this settles it.
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Post by skmcconnell on Jan 26, 2018 22:09:48 GMT
I think the Bazler DC-3 should also qualify. Whether there is a descent sim model out there I am not sure. Rob I believe you are referring to the BT-67.
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Post by gooneybird565 on Jan 27, 2018 7:07:07 GMT
At Flightsim.com, for instance, you will get Manfred Jahn: BASLER_BT67_V2.ZIP Sean McLeod (conversion for XP11 or Pedro van Leeuwen's aircraft): basler_bt-67-v1105.zip Blue skies
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Post by Rob on Jan 27, 2018 8:58:11 GMT
That's good that there is a download for the BT-67 and being one of MJ's aircraft it probably is very good.
If Allan agrees let's accept the aircraft for the rally.
Rob
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Post by dnunes on Jan 27, 2018 13:22:39 GMT
Hi, Domingos, If you want to come to some flights figures closer to what you had with the MAAM-SIM R4D (cruise speed, and fuel flow mainly), there are some variations in the aircraft.cfg of the C-47 you might like to try, although I did not up to now succeed in reducing substantially the C-47 climb speed... Hereunder my own tweaks : Thanks Philippe for your information. I intend to use it but only after the Rally, as I have already registered and sent the data on my test flight. Changing now the parameters would certainly change the performance of the aircraft.Regards,Domingos
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Post by Allan Lowson on Jan 27, 2018 15:26:17 GMT
As a modification of the DC-3 I guess the Basler qualifies.
Cheers, Allan
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Post by hugastump5 on Jan 27, 2018 19:49:34 GMT
I agree , a nice upgrade for a classic airplane.
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Post by johnl on Jan 28, 2018 23:16:00 GMT
I think the Bazler DC-3 should also qualify. Whether there is a descent sim model out there I am not sure. Rob (totally unofficial comment having no weight whatsoever). Surely the BT-67 is only a recent addition to the series of turboprop DC-3s which go back to four "Dart Dakotas", (3 of which flew for BEA on scheduled freight and passenger flights in the early 1950s), the single "Mamba Dakota" used as a trials aircraft, and the Dart-engined Conroy Turbo Three, Super Turbo Three, and Tri-Turbo Threes of the late 60s/early 70s....
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Post by Rob on Jan 29, 2018 9:40:03 GMT
True John, and all comments are appreciated.
As far as I am concerned any aircraft that has it roots pre 1975 will qualify regardless of what the more modern version may be, but how many of these aircraft are sim compatible. The BT-67 was only chosen as an example mainly because DC-3 Airways pilots are keen to fly our GAAR each year and some may enjoy flying the turbo version.
If you or anybody else wishes to fly an upgraded steam driven aircraft then please enter it.
Hope this helps.
Cheers Rob
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Post by hugastump5 on Jan 29, 2018 12:58:36 GMT
I might be wrong , but the only STEAM driven aircraft I can think of was the B-50 experimental with a nuclear reactor. your not going to get that out or in a 3000Ft. airfield !
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Post by Rob on Jan 29, 2018 22:54:49 GMT
You may not have the saying in your country, in my country steam driven means old, sorry.
So if you have a more modern aircraft derived from an older version it should qualify for the GAAR.
Cheers Rob
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Post by skmcconnell on Jan 30, 2018 0:18:16 GMT
Here in the States "Steam Driven" refers to gauges in the aircraft that work off of air-pressure or vacuum.
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Post by Rob on Jan 30, 2018 9:24:39 GMT
Well we have a world wide hobby and sayings obviously have different meanings in different countries and the same really goes for humour.
Anyway the post was about flying later model aircraft that have been derived or modified from its older parent qualifying for the GAAR or future events.
Rob
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Post by Allan Lowson on Jan 30, 2018 20:18:46 GMT
Some folk just don't know their aviation history. I'm still waiting for someone to enter a Henson Aerial Steam Carriage. A trip down to the Smithsonian and rummage through their records could be instructive. I'm pretty sure John that there was a Dart DC3 for FS98, but we seem to be in a Heathrow scale holding pattern for an update. Apart from confusing ATC with the turn of speed, there was an occasion when the Dart DC-3 was bringing a load of fizzy from France at previously unused altitudes, only to have the load go pop in the unpressurised cabin.
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Post by johnl on Jan 31, 2018 0:12:53 GMT
There is a FS9 Henson Aeiral Steam Carriage, and it's quite fun to fly, although if you let a wingtip drop ever-so-slightly too much in a turn, you're geography (the low speed at impact suggests that you'll probably walk away from this one). From what I recall of it's performance, you'd probably need landing lights on most legs.
One oddity that I'd be tempted to fly for the GAAR (if time allowed) is the 1923 Gnosspelious Gull monoplane. It's designer, Oscar Gnosspelious, came from a civil engineering/mining background, and in 1925 went back to prospecting and mining in the Lake District, where he gave his friend, Arthur Ransome, technical help on mining, and also appears in two of the latter's books as "Squashy Hat" (aka "Timothy Stedding"). The Gull is a bit tricky, and although I've not worked out it's range, I suspect that even with added tankage it wouldn't make it. The FS98 Dart Dakota was fun - I think I even got it working in FS2k2. Saw the real thing at a Farnborough airshow, too - very speedy compared to the normal Daks. BEA only had the DDs converted so that they could get used to turboprop operations prior to the Viscount coming into service. One of the first things they discovered that nothing in their fleet could carry a spare turboprop, so until the Vanguard came into service, their Engineering Division had one or two Bristol Freighters (never had the joy of seeing them in BEA colours!).
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